My Nappies

[Paul]

[Even when we talk about historical uniforms there always can be discussion about the right color. A good example is this topic about some Russian uniforms (see lower). It isn't always that easy to say you must use that color or that color to be historical correct.

1970´s same reg, same squad

again

[Cryns]

It isn't always that easy to say you must use that color or that color to be historical correct. Even this days the same uniform can be different from color, because they switched from dressmaker and that he used other materials to make the uniform.

Huh?

Of course there was and is not just one correct color. Every uniform can have been produced in subtile variations during production. Wheathering, sweating, sunlight and washing bleached the colors during use. That means a very light coat is never unrealistic as long as it is a very pale, or grayish-brownish color.

Aren't we trying to say the same thing in slightly different words?

1970´s same reg, same squad

Paul, your pictures only support my statement. Pale, bleached, green and brown, worn out, different dyes. But where is the grass green or apple green coats and trousers in these pictures? Maybe showing camouflage uniforms does not help a discussion concerning Napoleons time

Please let us not become button counters on uniforms!
Just something I wanted to be cleared out. Don't see it as critic!

Is there anything wrong with a critic?

So if button counting is not appreciated, I will stop counting right away. But I thought that was also one of the things people should do on a forum with loads of topics about how to paint things like... like... like.... euh.... old uniforms?

[vellek]

Is there anything wrong with a critic?

So if button counting is not appreciated, I will stop counting right away. But I thought that was also one of the things people should do on a forum with loads of topics about how to paint things like... like... like.... euh.... old uniforms?

I don't think there's anything wrong with a critic or a button-counter as long as it's an informed, healthy debate that sticks to the topic. It seems like that's the case here and it doesn't appear that anyone is being shouted down. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and their preference, and just as we agree to accept applause and criticism when we post our work here, critics should be prepared to accept any disagreement.

[Kekso]

Since this is the topic I started it seems that I want applause and don't want any critics. Well, I welcomed Mr.Cryns and any others comments and critics in at least two posts in this topics.

[Kekso]

I meant you can criticize MY work as much as you want. I'm not encouraging anybody to criticize other people's work.

But never forget that this is just a hobby and we all should have fun first of all
Speaking of fun, don't forget to vote in duels and competitions

[Paul]

Paul, your pictures only support my statement. Pale, bleached, green and brown, worn out, different dyes. But where is the grass green or apple green coats and trousers in these pictures? Maybe showing camouflage uniforms does not help a discussion concerning Napoleons time

It was, IMHO, obviously to Support Peter´s comment, this one,

It isn't always that easy to say you must use that color or that color to be historical correct. Even this days the same uniform can be different from color, because they switched from dressmaker and that he used other materials to make the uniform.

and the cammo is part of a uniform, same as thier trousers which, if you look are all diffrent shades, and that with the british army using modern materials and production techniques

Is there anything wrong with a critic?

No, but a constant one, yes

[Bramble15]

I like them very much. I suppose I am very similar to you with respect to choice of paint color. I am not at all well versed in mixing colors to achieve a "proper color" so if I get close I am happy. For me green is horrible because I can never really judge how the paint will look compared to photos or online plates.

What was your overall impression of these new figures? Is it just me or do the bases seem a little thick? Good thing or bad?

[ADM]

The kind of green Kekso used for his Russian troops is very light but historically it's not that wrong

When we look at a green uniform perfectly preserved like on this page :

http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/m ... 720s-1917/

"Coronation uniform of Emperor Alexander I, 1801, "
clic on the photo and you can see a medium green with some different shade.

When you look at :
"Coronation uniform of Alexander II, 1855, Museum "
located next to the previous one on the same page.
This military uniform turned into a more black green and is often confused by those of the Napoleonic period and Alexander I

This one :
"Uniform of the Chief Master of Ceremonies, 1797, "
on the same page is quite the kind of grass green Kekso used so it's not impossible that it was also the right colors for some others uniforms, especially cavalry where more fantasy was allowed, some officers bought their own uniform hand made by their tailor.

Anyway, as long as you enjoy your painted figure, it's always the right color ! but of course the more you have knowledge the more you want to be close to reality, everybody has his own opinion on the past as well as his own favorite shade for uniforms, it's all about taste. It's just my opinion on this subject.

[Kekso]

What was your overall impression of these new figures? Is it just me or do the bases seem a little thick? Good thing or bad?

Hi Rich... thank you for your comment. I painted Zvezda mini set Russian infantry. You can see my work here. My comment on them is that sculpting is excellent but they're lacking "soul". For this Dragoon I can say that they're better than infantry because poses are more "live". No, it isn't you, bases are disaster. I'm not wargamer so I want to know what wargamers think of them.

[Kekso]

First of all, I would like to thank Konrad for giving me those figures. Thanks mate
Secondly, there are few historical inaccuracies. This is Revell set 02578 Napoleonic British Life Guards and PSR says that is also good for Royal Horse Guards. Well, that isn't quite correct because I couldn't find that Royal Horse Guards had sheepskins on their horses. Also horses should be black, not brown (thanks Kurt ). Despite that (and you might find some more inaccuracies) I decided to paint them as Royal Horse Guards. I hope you'll enjoy it.

[Peter]

Looks fantastic Dali! Love the grey horse!

[Kekso]

Thanks Peter. Yes, I think grey horses became my "specialty"

Oh, and I borrowed some "space technology" camera and changed background from black to light blue. That's the reason for significantly different pictures. But now I must learn how to use that camera

[Konrad]

Nice figs,mate.

[Graeme]

I think the sheepskins might be OK for the Horse Guards, especially on campaign. According to C.E. Franklin in "British Napoleonic Uniforms" "In 1812, the sheepskins worn by the hussar regiments were authorised for all cavalry units", black for officers, white for other ranks and edged usually in red but sometimes in the facing colour. An illustration of the Shabraque and harness of a Royal Horse Guards officer circa 1814 shows a black sheepskin edged red over the saddle and a half shabraque behind the saddle. On campaign I don't think the absence of a shabraque is an issue.

You are right, 'Cavalry Blacks' for the Household Cavalry, and perhaps the cross belts of the rank and file should be pipe clayed white but otherwise a lovely paint job on this splendid set of figures.
I agree your greys are a bit special, I also like the off white colour of your sheepskins it makes them look more authentic.

[Kekso]

Thanks Graeme. Your comment is really appreciated. I mean part with facts and critics (not about my painting skills )

[Marvin]

Nice work as always from you. I do like these figures from Revell and I'm going back to them painting Life Guards after painting the RHGs last year.

I like how you have one figure leaning as far forward as he can with his sabre, a pose that I wouldn't have thought of. What colour do you use for the off-white cross belts, etc? Is it a brown wash on white?

Keep these figure reviews coming!

[Kekso]

Hi Marvin. Thank you for your kind comment. I use mix of yellow, white and ochre.

[davbenbak1]

Great job on the Zvezda mini sets. I have some French Dragoons to finish. I find that the detail is not etched (or raised) very deep on these figures so I have a lot of trouble with things like piping and cuffs. The bases can be a bit of a hassle when mixing with other manufactures. I have a WIP that I need to finish where I have them with mixed with Italeri

[Beano Boy]

Dalibor,if you want to change the color of those mounts, just black ink them horses until the colour you require appears. i was taught this tip from blucher18red.

Grand job on the painting. BB

[Susofrick]

With that blue and yellow I thought they were Swedes first. I painted mine in a darker blue.