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After a long delay, here are finally the pics of my prehistoric diorama. (It is not necessary to repeat the story of this project here; you can find it in the WIP section). As always, I have played around with different background posters during the photo sessions to see how the atmosphere of the pictures changes.
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sberry
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Susofrick
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Wow!! 
Very nice and impressive work.
And the ambience with the the background pics is very succesful.
Very nice and impressive work.
And the ambience with the the background pics is very succesful.
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Konrad
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Wonderful water imitation!
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Konrad wrote:And the ambience with the the background pics is very succesful.
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Kostis Ornerakis
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My congratulations with this work and the finishing of it, Sberry!
I am very happy to see it.
You are becoming a true master in using background photographs, most of the time you found the perfect camera angle with the right background.
But you are becoming a master modelwater maker too: fascinating to see how the modelwater fades into photographic water. I can see the border but its very good already. You can only make it smoother using photoshop I think.
But most of all I love the subject you show us because it is so rarely seen: its the kind of diorama we only find in archeology musea. And if so, it usually has a lower level of realism and scale model quality compared to your work. Like the tatched roofs: for some reason I never understood, most museum models show thatched roofs made of real straws scale 1:1
but you did it the professional way 
. Like with everything else. The people, especially the woman, look very lovely and attractive 
though not very suntanned for naked people.
I have to say once more again how great your rough wood work and mud walls look. The most questionable detail for me is the apple green color of the roof-moss and the very hard dark green seaweeds at the pillars hitting the waterline: it might be due to digital reasons that these colors became so strong. I would expect much softer green colors for these kind of plants.
Well, all in all you have added a great new diorama to your ever growing historical collection.
I am very happy to see it.
You are becoming a true master in using background photographs, most of the time you found the perfect camera angle with the right background.
But you are becoming a master modelwater maker too: fascinating to see how the modelwater fades into photographic water. I can see the border but its very good already. You can only make it smoother using photoshop I think.
But most of all I love the subject you show us because it is so rarely seen: its the kind of diorama we only find in archeology musea. And if so, it usually has a lower level of realism and scale model quality compared to your work. Like the tatched roofs: for some reason I never understood, most museum models show thatched roofs made of real straws scale 1:1
but you did it the professional way . Like with everything else. The people, especially the woman, look very lovely and attractive though not very suntanned for naked people.I have to say once more again how great your rough wood work and mud walls look. The most questionable detail for me is the apple green color of the roof-moss and the very hard dark green seaweeds at the pillars hitting the waterline: it might be due to digital reasons that these colors became so strong. I would expect much softer green colors for these kind of plants.
Well, all in all you have added a great new diorama to your ever growing historical collection.
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Cryns
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I am only able to put me in the row of all comment earlier.
A very well done work.
Starting of the water effect to the people and finally all the house.
And they look not IKEA new.
The combination of the Dio with the background is very well elaborate.
Also the pattern of the leather is well presented.
And with a kind of art the eye catching umber skull in front of the house.
As Mr. Cryns already mentioned, a great idea, well crafted, and perfect presented.
A very well done work.
Starting of the water effect to the people and finally all the house.
And they look not IKEA new.
The combination of the Dio with the background is very well elaborate.
Also the pattern of the leather is well presented.
And with a kind of art the eye catching umber skull in front of the house.
As Mr. Cryns already mentioned, a great idea, well crafted, and perfect presented.
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Wiking
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Gentlemen,
thank you very much for your friendly comments!
Yes, the figures are mostly by Phersu – the fact that his sets of prehistoric people were available was one of the reasons to start this project at all.
(And, believe or not, I even have managed to get the pdf file for this project finished … and the overdue one for the old pontoon project, too!).
Mr. Cryns, thank you for your words in particular, as your river boats and the landscape segments that surround them are little masterpieces themselves!
The question of dioramas in museums that you brought up is really interesting. Usually, those dioramas have quality standards that are quite different from what we 1/72 collectors try to achieve: Museum dioramas are often too clean, too perfect to look realistic, in particular those with buildings that are made using techniques such as 3D printing or CNC tools. Or it is the other extreme and everything is done in a sloppy and shabby way. This is often to be seen when figures in a rather large scale – say about 1/50 or 1/20 – are used: They frequently look like something that was made by schoolchildren using modeling clay …
But there also are some rather good examples of museum dioramas. The Museum of Prehistory here in Berlin had some nice ones that impressed me a lot when I was a child (I couldn’t find pictures except for this blog here; scroll down to the last pic).
thank you very much for your friendly comments!
Yes, the figures are mostly by Phersu – the fact that his sets of prehistoric people were available was one of the reasons to start this project at all.
(And, believe or not, I even have managed to get the pdf file for this project finished … and the overdue one for the old pontoon project, too!).
Mr. Cryns, thank you for your words in particular, as your river boats and the landscape segments that surround them are little masterpieces themselves!
The question of dioramas in museums that you brought up is really interesting. Usually, those dioramas have quality standards that are quite different from what we 1/72 collectors try to achieve: Museum dioramas are often too clean, too perfect to look realistic, in particular those with buildings that are made using techniques such as 3D printing or CNC tools. Or it is the other extreme and everything is done in a sloppy and shabby way. This is often to be seen when figures in a rather large scale – say about 1/50 or 1/20 – are used: They frequently look like something that was made by schoolchildren using modeling clay …
But there also are some rather good examples of museum dioramas. The Museum of Prehistory here in Berlin had some nice ones that impressed me a lot when I was a child (I couldn’t find pictures except for this blog here; scroll down to the last pic).
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Kostis Ornerakis
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I was involved in the reconstruction of such houses in a Museum at the "Bodensee" 20 years ago . So it is very interesting to see your fantastic work here!
http://www.pfahlbauten.de/
http://www.pfahlbauten.de/
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MABO
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MABO wrote:I was involved in the reconstruction of such houses in a Museum at the "Bodensee" 20 years ago . http://www.pfahlbauten.de/
I was not yet there, which really is a pity. But I know the pictures of this reconstruction - and I used them as a major source of inspiration!
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Mabo what a great link! You did so many interesting historical projects and films.
Its a pity you are only modeling WWII stuff now. You could be such an interesting asset to our ancient modelers section at this forum.
And Sberry: Lacus Benacus! what a nice webpage with loads of great, nice lighted pictures. Finally I can see all your different figures: some American Indians and bronze age Jews succesfully turned into pilevillage people. Very nice, very nice.
Its a pity you are only modeling WWII stuff now. You could be such an interesting asset to our ancient modelers section at this forum.
And Sberry: Lacus Benacus! what a nice webpage with loads of great, nice lighted pictures. Finally I can see all your different figures: some American Indians and bronze age Jews succesfully turned into pilevillage people. Very nice, very nice.
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Cryns
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I have learned a lot again. You are one of my best teachers for history (beside Mr. Cryns)! I have found the .pdf files on your site and look at them always if i'm bored. So i get a lot of input and variety.
If you're interested to want more suitable pigs for the "Italy before..." diorama...
...i would offer to modify slightely 4 of my smaller wild boars for you. I'd like to do that gladly, but that's just a suggestion.
If you're interested to want more suitable pigs for the "Italy before..." diorama...
...i would offer to modify slightely 4 of my smaller wild boars for you. I'd like to do that gladly, but that's just a suggestion.
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